The Carlton , Llandudno

Although surrounded by scaffolding, the Carlton seemed to be open when I was passing on St Patrick's Day - lights were on and the doors were oppen.

More of a local's pub really and it is a bit rough around the edges. Very cheap ( probably due to the Wetherspoons nearby). Only Brains SA available when I called for a quick half (£1.35). I last called in here in 2006 and it hasn't changed much!

Its definitely a passing trade place as you won't be inclined to have a second drink.

Strange place that looks like it's trying to be a JDW but without the class. :-)) Lots of cheap food and drink offers including one beer at £2.20 per pint. I said I'll have a half, the barman said that will be £2 please!!!! Needless to say I had a pint. Apparantly only the pint was on offer, very weird. A few quite sad looking people around and no atmosphere at all in complete contrast to the nearby Palladium which was packed. Trying to compete with the Palladium is obviously a bad idea as it's not working. I think they need to try something else. I think it could be a smart place with a bit of a spruce up. There are wood panels around the walls and some decent old features, but they're not making the most of it at the moment.